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  • 25 August 2013 11:31 in: General
    Still waiting for my t4c gold to come over to this account.

    I know I didn't have a lot, but it was spread out over a few different accounts.  I can't seem to find a way to go back to the 4thsaga.com website and check in the account manager so not positive if I had this same email on all my other accounts.

    Any update on the migration of our accounts in reference to the webshop gold?


  • 20 February 2014 08:53 in: General
    Is this going to be the standard +5 level requirement per seraph? Be level 90 and 95 to 4 and 5x?

    Just asking cause someone told me it was going to  be 95 and 105 to overseraph.  Kind of sounded like they were feeding me some bull but thought I would just ask anyway.
  • 25 August 2013 11:25 in: 4th Saga
    So all that brings back the one spell I  been asking for for many years.

    Should be some kind of a Dodge Magic Spell put into game. 

    Could have this spell based on stats or different level of spells learnable through higher levels.  Not only would this be good for PvP but also in PvM with these higher mobs casting more spells and meleeing less.

    We had the "Absorb Mana Burst" spell for a bit.  Was a great spell for killing things like the Unicorn that cast Mana Burst frequently, and helpful in pvp for the high intel mages.  Didn't stop it 100% but sure stopped the quicker kills.

    Could make other spells like that.  Maybe two different ones.  "Absorb Mental Magic"  "Dodge Physical Magic"  Not saying these should negate spells 100% as that would gimp mages to being useless, but depending on level of spell, stats, level of character, class, etc could have the them lower damage up to 40% in PvP and 70% in PvM.

    Make them costly to learn as far as gold is concerned but not skill pts.  Yes, I'm still upset about the waste of skill pts of them Pally spells, was a waste of too many kind of why I just stopped logging.


  • 28 August 2013 18:47 in: 4th Saga
    Could you repost the pics and prices for the guild islands?

    I want one
  • 28 August 2013 18:51 in: 4th Saga
    Is there a link to this somewhere I don't see?

    Seems every time I ask something in here the post gets deleted.
  • 05 September 2013 18:09 in: 4th Saga
    Also ws gold ETA?  See a few items pop up in the webshop so I know it's being worked on, what about our past accounts?  Are they forgotten or lost already?

    Some info, do you anything from the players with multiple accounts.?  Just asking cause not sure which ones had ws gold left on them but I had 8 or 9 accts with gold on 3 of them I believe.  Be nice to get them all consolidated to this 1 account.


  • 06 September 2013 16:51 in: 4th Saga
    So, HGM you said you be looking for new Dev in another thread?  Consider some of this before bringing a new person on board.

    I talked to a few in game and came to some simple solutions others like myself don't log much anymore.

    1.  I don't even care about experience and levels anymore.  We as players beat this topic to death and settled that this is about as good as it gets.  Given that thought from others, what else is there?  Get an event staff member(s).  Someone who will log on at some kind of regular basis and run some kind of event.  Anything from Finding hidden objects, Finding a Gm, Portal mazes and dare I say, the occasional raid.  Maybe do some kind of weekly/monthly GM Item/Item of choice quest again.

    2.  Straighten our your webshop and accounts from past domain.  Do you and the staff above you realize just how many people really feel ripped off because thier ws gold did not follow them to this updated site?  Take care of your paying customers is all I'm saying, Good business practice keeps good retention ratios.

    3.  Stop deleting all negative posts.  Nothing wrong with a little constructive criticism.


  • 15 September 2013 21:11 in: 4th Saga
    RE: Well heard. Thanks guys! :) Saga GM

    That mean yes, there is? or did you just acknowledge reading the post?

    Off to work in a few minutes but would have been nice to see a post back on Friday or Saturday.  How about a post for the next one before the weekend instead of on the last day/hours.

    Not knocking it, just asking for information to be little more forthcoming in the future.  Could have had a high turn out all weekend instead of just Sunday afternoon/evening.

  • 07 October 2013 06:52 in: 4th Saga
    Bring Jay over from Trilogy as our Sysop and let him run the staff.  I would probably log in and play again.

    Always had respect for him on Trilogy, was fair to all at least from what I saw.  Granted I haven't signed in over there in over a year so not sure if he is still around.
  • 07 January 2014 16:02 in: 4th Saga
    So, just my thoughts on anything past 1x seraph.  First, people make me laugh when you think you will be uber powerful just because you have 5x.  This is not really the case, sure at lower levels(under 120) your aura is going to kick ass for sure. But getting above 150ish only means your going to finish the build 5 to 10 levels faster than a 3x.  Doesn't mean you are super powerful, just means you will have an extra 25 pts in your preferred stat at final build time.  So, for instance. 

    My water mage was final at level 135ish.  Thats ancient armor with CoTa and all jewely and boosts.  So with 5x I would achieve this at 125ish but still the same power with a slight increase in aura power.  In all reality, as it is now you will be able to get the good leveling spots a bit faster with a very slight increase in power but negligible at this point in the development stage.  Not saying it won't pay off in the end just depending on future add-ons really.

    We had 1x'ers get to 170 in the same spot 3x'ers are complaining about getting to 160.  So is a 5x going to get to 150 and complain about boredom?  Most likely

    I say make 4x and 5x mean something.  For instance at 4x seraph, have Wing boost of 10% all stat boost and 5x at 15% all stat boost.  Or add on to the wing boost already in place.  We get boosts at 100,200 and 300 so add some small boost for 400, 500 with a greater boost at 1000 base stat.  Plus some new graphic 4 and 5 time wings would be cool just to look good.

    Personally, if we are going 5x for sure, I would say jump clear to 10x and make end content to justify if.  Plus with the boost above this would get some to serious over-seraph just for the potential extra  boosts.

    One request though.  Can we get a different oracle quest for 4x and 5x?  That has always been and will always be one of the biggest complaints of over-seraphing is the repeating of the same quest to get there.  Or put the oracle access scrolls in the webshop on a serious sale after 5x get introduce.  Like a 5 pack for the price of 2 regulars or a 10 pack for the price of 3.  Lets face, almost everyone has multiple characters at some point.


  • 07 January 2014 20:58 in: 4th Saga
    I never seen such hatred for someone posting thoughts and ideas.

    Sorry Gunblade we all don't fit into what you think is perfect.

    Yes, I come and go more frequently now. Not logged for hours a day. Has nothing to do with staff, past or present or the server so quit trying to blame the game for my absence.  Once again putting words were none were said.

    And about Saga since you repeatedly bring it up.  Seems you were the only one who new who he was and you part of his crew so what was really going on?  You do seem to have details on what he said and did.  This the hatred you show to others or you just something against me personally, or you just get to be the bully finally and spread shit where you want? Well, good for you I guess.  Me personally, I don't care who the staff is or was and never wanted and still don't want to know.  I always thought and still believe that some secrecy in who the staff's mortal characters should be upheld.  Eliminates favoritism that way.

    And quote me once where I said I was not happy with  what this staff is doing?  Quit putting words where there were none just to fit your little world.

    I was trying be nice but let me ask you personally?  Are you that stupid that you think more remorts will make 200 possible?  The number of remorts has absolutely nothing with gaining levels.  Hell, I  remember Sonny, a level 140 human, a few level 170+ 1xers.  So no and NO the remort has nothing to do with gaining levels.  I was just saying, if you are going to do it than do it max right off and be done with it.  If 5x is max than fine.  If there is a glimmer of an idea for more remorts later than just do them now is all I'm saying.  Just me personally, I don't care if it's 1x or 10x server, guaranteed I will max out at least 1 or 2 toons.  WHY? Well, just part of the game.

    More boosts is bs?  I totally disagree.  As far as I'm concerned the more the better for true end game content.  I'm not saying totally godlike powers are needed, but every mob in game should be at some point able to be solo killed.  Yes I mean every mob, even if you need the stats of a level 200+ but still should be able to solo any mob, past, present and future.  I would probably feel different is we had high population where it was easy to get a 6 person group at any time, but is not the case.  And yes, I think changes/additions should be considered accordingly.  If our population picks up than have some updates set aside for teams and such.  If it stays as is or close to it, then things should be designed around this population.  I'm not saying it should be easy, difficulty and the risk of dieing is part of the game and what make it fun. 

    Just for the record since you know all.  I been here since 30 days after this server was created.  I never leave.  Unfortunately I don't live in my moms basement.  I have to actually go out in the RW and make a living.  So, get off my ass.